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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 1:41 pm 
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Potential for a really big year if we traded Johnson.. Which we won't do, but he ain't getting any younger.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:45 pm 
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Ha, even better - he is going to the fucking Browns, where QBs go to die.


Hope springs eternal. We've actually put together a pretty decent D.

Manziel has a pretty straightforward job, get the ball to Josh Gordon and try not to get killed in the process.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:27 pm 
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TinStar wrote:
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Poor Bridgewater having to go to the vikings. :)

It was a good pick for them I guess. A little surprised he dropped that far.


Yes, what a disaster having AP as your RB, Cordarelle and Jennings as your WR, and Rudolph as your TE. The cupboard is just bare.

Oddly enough, I just got off the phone with a guy from the St. Louis Rams, they ordered a bunch of Massage Therapy Lotion from us, kinda cool.


Dude Cordarelle is a beast and Rudolph has potential but AP and Jennings have to stay healthy which is a big question mark. Jennings is old enough to be my dad...Obviously a good pick up for the Vikings but if I was Bridgewater I would be thinking.. Minnesota? Seriously? It snows every fucking day in Minnesota!!


Andre Johnson 32 years old

Greg Jennings 30 years old

Don't you hate it when facts get in the way?

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:07 pm 
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Yeah but Jennings plays old! That and Jennings can't hold Andre's jock...

Greg Jennings - 2013 - 68 receptions, 804 yards

Andre Johnson -2013 - 109 receptions, 1407 yards


Greg Jennings would be the WR2/3 on the Texans as his stats are similar to Hopkins (marginally better).

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:14 pm 
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All I know is fucking AP got hurt when I needed him most last year, and thats what I get for drafting a filthy sooner in fantasy.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:08 pm 
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TinStar wrote:
They may have been talented but they never had Arian Foster (if he's healthy) and Andre Johnson and Hopkins etc. What did they maybe have a 1000 yard rusher once? I'm sure Steve Johnson picked up 1000 yards a couple times but he's still no Andre Johnson and their defense was fricking horrible right? Like.. Bottom 3rd horrible every year? The Texans has 1000 yard (almost 2000 one year??) every year and 1000 yard receivers every year except maybe the year Johnson was hurt half the season. I'm not saying the Bills were total garbage, but the Texans were (and still are) a better team and have had a top 10 defense every year since Phillips came over.


I would be careful making claims on how good 2-14 is but let me list what Fitz had at Buffalo on the same team at the same time.

Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller and Marshawn Lynch.

Steve Jackson, Lee Evans, Terrell Owens, Marcus Easely and Josh Reed. Decent offensive lines and a Top 10 defense 3 times in his 4 years here.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:56 pm 
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Vllad wrote:
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They may have been talented but they never had Arian Foster (if he's healthy) and Andre Johnson and Hopkins etc. What did they maybe have a 1000 yard rusher once? I'm sure Steve Johnson picked up 1000 yards a couple times but he's still no Andre Johnson and their defense was fricking horrible right? Like.. Bottom 3rd horrible every year? The Texans has 1000 yard (almost 2000 one year??) every year and 1000 yard receivers every year except maybe the year Johnson was hurt half the season. I'm not saying the Bills were total garbage, but the Texans were (and still are) a better team and have had a top 10 defense every year since Phillips came over.


I would be careful making claims on how good 2-14 is but let me list what Fitz had at Buffalo on the same team at the same time.

Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller and Marshawn Lynch.

Steve Jackson, Lee Evans, Terrell Owens, Marcus Easely and Josh Reed. Decent offensive lines and a Top 10 defense 3 times in his 4 years here.


Not statistically! Basically everyone you mentioned on that list was complete garbage when Fitzpatrick was in Buffalo. I'm not sure that there was a 1000 yard rusher in the bunch during that time frame and there was maybe 1 year where one of those guys received 1000 yards. Arian Foster has rushed for over 1000 in every season he has played more than 8 games. Andre has gone over 1000 yards in every season since 2007 that he has played more than 7 games. The Bills never had anyone close to that caliber of player on offense! I can remember how pissed I was about having Marshawn Lynch on my fantasy team when he was on the bills. He was complete garbage the last couple years until he got traded to the Seahawks. Maybe if the Bills had Marshawn Lynch today, and Stevie Johnson (too early?) and a decent TE...

2010 - Texans # 9 offense, 29 defense
2010 - Bills # 28 offense, 28 defense

2011 - Texans #10 offense,4 defense,
2011 - Bills #14 offense, 30 defense

2012 - Texans #8 offense,10 defense
2012 - Bills #21 offense, 26 defense

2013 - Texans #31 offense, 24 defense
2013 - Bills #22 offense,20 defense

The Texans biggest issue outside of injuries are QB. Foster was injured basically the entire year as were half our defensive backs. It wasn't a talent issue(other than QB). The Texans were one of the favorites to go to the Super Bowl last year!

Just wait till week 4 in the reg season this year. We can save the shit talk till then.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:13 pm 
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YES!!!! Texans take OL with 2nd pick. I know absolutely nothing about that guy but I was hoping with Bridgewater gone that they would look for a QB in round 3 and pass on Carr.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:37 pm 
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Ok I'm ignoring all your Texas spam... Cause Its Bear down time....

Bears desperately need to bolster D. Good CB selection in Kyle fuller and Dt in ego Ferguson. I'm getting excited now.... with that offense, we could make a run.

One think that is interesting. 51 picks and not 1 running back. Shows you how the game has changed.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:50 pm 
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Bears need to draft a QB cause Cutler is a tool.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:51 pm 
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Welp.. Now I am confused. I guess the Texans are waiting till the 4th round to pick up a QB? heh.. I like the TE pick but man, are there really no QBs that the Texans like? Are we really going to stick with Fitzpatrick or is there something in the works for Mallet? Cousins??

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
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Bears need to draft a QB cause Cutler is a tool.


He has a great arm. Just lacks a brain. But the bears receivers can make any qb look good.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
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Vanraw wrote:
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Bears need to draft a QB cause Cutler is a tool.


He has a great arm. Just lacks a brain. But the bears receivers can make any qb look good.

Yea, he has the tools... I just can't stand him.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
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Just wait till week 4 in the reg season this year. We can save the shit talk till then.


I don't know what happens in week 4 but if Fitz is your starter we won't have to wait that long to start the shit talk. You will find out yourself what Fitz is all about.


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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 11:52 am 
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TinStar wrote:
Welp.. Now I am confused. I guess the Texans are waiting till the 4th round to pick up a QB? heh.. I like the TE pick but man, are there really no QBs that the Texans like? Are we really going to stick with Fitzpatrick or is there something in the works for Mallet? Cousins??


I would guess Mallet - Bill worked with Hoodie McDouchebag on the Pats, and he is a superfluous player on their team now and the last year of his contract.

Glad we're not wasting a draft on a QB just cause we need one, if theres no value there don't push it.

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Bears need to draft a QB cause Cutler is a tool.


He has a great arm. Just lacks a brain. But the bears receivers can make any qb look good.


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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 5:02 pm 
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Meanwhile, in other Cleveland Browns news...

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... suspension

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10910 ... m-minicamp

Burleson should be back, but he'll just re-break his arm saving another pizza from certain death.

Maybe Johnny Football can just throw the ball to himself.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:19 am 
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Vllad wrote:
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Just wait till week 4 in the reg season this year. We can save the shit talk till then.


I don't know what happens in week 4 but if Fitz is your starter we won't have to wait that long to start the shit talk. You will find out yourself what Fitz is all about.


Texans play the Bills...

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Just wait till week 4 in the reg season this year. We can save the shit talk till then.


I don't know what happens in week 4 but if Fitz is your starter we won't have to wait that long to start the shit talk. You will find out yourself what Fitz is all about.


Texans play the Bills...



Ahh sorry I don't watch the Bills. I am from the Bay area and own Direct TV so I watch all Bay area sports.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
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Vllad wrote:


Ahh sorry I don't watch the Bills. I am from the Bay area and own Direct TV so I watch all Bay area sports.


Oh. My bad, I just assumed with your location and your overvaluing of talent on that team that you had to be a die hard Bills fan :) So you're a 49ers fan then? Giants(MLB)?

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Draft
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So you're a 49ers fan then? Giants(MLB)?


Yup!

I used to go to a lot of Raider games as well. I once watched Wilie Mays, John Brodie and Daryl Lamonica play in three consective days. My Grandfather took me to a Sunday game at the Stick, Monday night in Oakland and Tuesday back to the Stick.


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The Giants should move back to NY, I feel this city deserves a second team and the Mets just don't cut it.


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As a dolphins fan I was pleased with the constructive twitter posts my team made in regards to our first round draft choice and two days later when Michael Sam was selected. Joe Philbin and our coaching staff have done wonders repairing the disfunction in our locker room that was at the heart of the bullying scandal last season.

When it came to their actual picks most analysts seem to be giving them an A or B so I guess that's good, I think they reached a little on Ja'Waun but they needed a tackle and didn't want to risk trading down and him no longer being there. I also think they should've went after more lineman with higher picks, they have a solid receiving core and running backs but need to keep Tannehill upright.

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Wonder if we will try to trade him while we can still get some value for him.


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And the browns cut vince young... lol

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