Pathfinder: Kingmaker
(11-07-2018, 11:55 AM)Slamz Wrote: I've been wondering where all your losses come from. Granted I'm still only in the troll chapter.

It has been a couple of things.

1. The longer you take to finish the chapter boss the faster the events occur. This is primarily a problem when you don't know where to go to complete a chapter. i.e., my first Troll play through I didn't know the Troll king was the key to finishing the chapter. I was out doing other things and after a certain amount of time the troll raids come faster and faster. Pretty soon you are missing events and eating stability losses because you are getting 2 troll attacks a month. Since you can only deal with 1 at a time that is a problem. Especially if you start losing those raids. I collapsed in my first game when I lost a Troll raid and didn't execute on 2 others. That was 9 stability in one month.

2. The DC value of the event is higher on higher difficulty levels.

3. Their are failures and successes but their are also Triumphs and Epic failures. Some Epic failures give your kingdom debuffs. You will notice in the upper left of your kingdom screen the general status of your kingdom, it says Stable, Worried, Crumbling etc. The number of debuffs reduces your status. Some Chapters give you a debuff just by completing it.

On my second collapse I got an Epic Failure on a Curse event and I completed the Fey Chapter so I went from Stable to Crumbling status in a month. I didn't have enough resources to do any research to drop the events so the next chapter came and I was again taking Stab hits on lost battles which hits the stability even worse when you have the debuffs on. I lasted for a while but I never again saw a stability over 6. Eventually like my troll loss above it was a slow death of heading into negative stability.

My third and most fun collapse was my evil game. I played an all out evil game but because most of my advisors were not evil I eventually ended up losing Linzi, Tristain and Valerie because they didn't like my decisions. That ended up killing my ability to do any diplomacy. All those events went unexecuted or being executed by people who had no Charisma. That lead to border wars and eventually being invaded when my Relations value dropped below 0. While you have plenty of options for advisors you can go from a plus 10 guy to a plus 3 guy pretty quickly. On harder difficulties that can lead to a lot of event losses since the DC's get harder as the game progresses.

If you play evil you have to pre-plan your advisors carefully to build up their stats accordingly. Relying on good aligned characters or just not following their advice can lead to you losing them altogether.

It is also a problem if you get some characters out right killed which I have done as well.

Another thing that hurts is how you employ the initial advisor you pick at your coronation and guys like Kesten. Kassil, Shandra and Lander are important choices depending on how you plan to play. Shandra and Lander do not play the military role Kassil does so you better be ready for the poor military choices Regongar is going to employ if you don't pick Kassil. Regongar makes military decisions that cost more resources than Kassil does. You could just ignore Regongar's decisions but if you don't listen to him you risk losing him and I am not sure militarily how you survive without Regongar and Kassil.  

Kesten can be killed multiple times which means you need to pick well for Warden just in case Kesten dies. (that was a problem for me in two games). Warden helps prosecute multiple wars so if he isn't good later in the game you start losing those wars.

If you play evil Tsanna and Vordakai are important adivsors to get and not easy to get if you want good evil advisors. Playing Evil can end poorly if you don't set your advisors up well. I didn't so I crashed and burned.
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Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 09-24-2018, 11:42 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 09-25-2018, 09:47 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 09-25-2018, 10:27 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Zouji - 09-25-2018, 10:11 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 09-26-2018, 08:04 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 09-30-2018, 03:30 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-01-2018, 08:23 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-01-2018, 09:00 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-01-2018, 09:13 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Skelas - 10-01-2018, 12:15 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-01-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-01-2018, 01:09 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Veraphim - 10-01-2018, 10:29 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-02-2018, 10:22 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-04-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-05-2018, 09:45 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-05-2018, 03:18 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-05-2018, 04:12 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-05-2018, 09:42 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Zouji - 10-06-2018, 12:45 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-07-2018, 10:26 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-08-2018, 12:24 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-08-2018, 07:02 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Dharus - 10-08-2018, 08:42 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-08-2018, 01:34 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Dharus - 10-08-2018, 03:40 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-08-2018, 04:03 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-09-2018, 07:54 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-09-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-09-2018, 07:58 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Arsilon - 10-09-2018, 01:18 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-09-2018, 02:17 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-09-2018, 02:04 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-09-2018, 02:33 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-09-2018, 06:37 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-09-2018, 07:22 PM
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RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-09-2018, 09:45 PM
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RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-10-2018, 06:55 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-10-2018, 08:51 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Skelas - 10-10-2018, 09:01 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-10-2018, 11:09 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-10-2018, 11:15 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-10-2018, 08:03 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-10-2018, 08:21 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-11-2018, 07:35 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-11-2018, 09:40 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-11-2018, 10:09 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-11-2018, 10:39 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-11-2018, 11:18 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Slamz - 10-11-2018, 02:15 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-11-2018, 08:42 PM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-13-2018, 07:49 AM
RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-14-2018, 08:57 PM
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RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Crice - 10-14-2018, 07:24 PM
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RE: Pathfinder: Kingmaker - by Vllad - 10-17-2018, 06:44 AM
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