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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Rallick - 03-28-2012
New season starts soon
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 03-28-2012
The trailers look great. AT this point this is the only reason I have a HBO subscription. Luck was pretty good and showed some serious promise, but the canceled it due to horses on the set dieing?????
I have not read the books, and I am seriously enjoying the series. I think more so then had I read 6the books. Though my son bought me the first audio book and listening to it while driving, I find how impressed I am with the show being so accurate tot he details of the book.
Good stuff. This Sunday is the premier for season 2.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 03-30-2012
I came home after my 2.5 week vaca to S. Africa a couple of days ago, and until then my impression of when the new season started was "Summer 2012". In my brain, that meant June. I shat my pants when I saw this sunday - I am soooo excited. this season brings in some of my favorite characters, and Jamie becomes one of the most awesome characters in the series.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Uncle Shags - 03-30-2012
I still can't believe HBO hasn't joined the 21st century. I would love to throw my money at them for this show, but their "subscription or buy the dvds months from now" system is horseshit...
I have refrained from this torrent thing people speak of up til now. HBO may turn me into a dirty pirate. Aar.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Venganza - 03-30-2012
If one was inclined to be a pirate mr shaggs, I might know someone who could fit ya with a peg leg, if you get my meaning.
That said I was given this series and I buy things after i've checked em out first, i just hate buying one and it turning out to be false advertised dreck or not my style.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 04-01-2012
Episode 1 season 2 was great. This is some great TV.
I actually think this is better having never read the books. Its all new.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 04-01-2012
Yeah great start to season 2. However, as someone who has read the books, and I constantly AMAZED by how perfectly the books have been translated to film. Yes there are minor differences, but I always find myself at the very least understanding why they needed to show something a little differently.
Needless to say, if you enjoy the 1st season, this season is going to blow your doors completely off. And the third season... well, you'll just need to turn your TV off permanently afterwards, because it will never be beaten.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 04-02-2012
Uncle Shags Wrote:I still can't believe HBO hasn't joined the 21st century. I would love to throw my money at them for this show, but their "subscription or buy the dvds months from now" system is horseshit...
I have refrained from this torrent thing people speak of up til now. HBO may turn me into a dirty pirate. Aar.
Their subscription model has allowed them to do the programming they do without worrying about changing it to appease advertisers or them having to give a shit about nielson ratings. Its the reason they kept the Wire, the best show ever made, on for 5 seasons despite lackluster ratings.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 04-02-2012
Jakensama Wrote:Uncle Shags Wrote:I still can't believe HBO hasn't joined the 21st century. I would love to throw my money at them for this show, but their "subscription or buy the dvds months from now" system is horseshit...
I have refrained from this torrent thing people speak of up til now. HBO may turn me into a dirty pirate. Aar.
Their subscription model has allowed them to do the programming they do without worrying about changing it to appease advertisers or them having to give a shit about nielson ratings. Its the reason they kept the Wire, the best show ever made, on for 5 seasons despite lackluster ratings.
And as a result, their shows are the best on TV.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 04-02-2012
the way I look at out, is 15 bucks a month for 3 months is 45. and every quarter they seem to have a show I want.plus the other movie shit. That is cheaper then the DVD.
They still cancle shows though. Disappointed in luck being canceled, and the early shut down of deadwood and carnival still piss me off.
I do wish they would open up the HBO go as a subscription service. My small cable company can't offer it.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Uncle Shags - 04-02-2012
Jakensama Wrote:Their subscription model has allowed them to do the programming they do without worrying about changing it to appease advertisers or them having to give a shit about nielson ratings. Its the reason they kept the Wire, the best show ever made, on for 5 seasons despite lackluster ratings.Yeah yeah yeah, but how would offering an internet subscription, or limited internet pass per show hurt that? I would pay MORE to be able to see it online in a timely fashion than buy the dvds months from now.
And like Vanraw said, they still cancel shit. Deadwood was great. Maybe if they updated their system they would be more successful, not less.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Breand - 04-02-2012
Vanraw Wrote:the way I look at out, is 15 bucks a month for 3 months is 45. and every quarter they seem to have a show I want.plus the other movie shit. That is cheaper then the DVD.
They still cancle shows though. Disappointed in luck being canceled, and the early shut down of deadwood and carnival still piss me off.
I do wish they would open up the HBO go as a subscription service. My small cable company can't offer it.
Luck only got canceled because they kept killing horses on the set.
HBO GO is their attempt at entering the 21st century. If you are a subscriber, you can now stream all of their stuff. It's Netflix for all HBO stuff, including the movies they play. Say what you will, but the old format works for them. I will take their old model if it means them making all of these kick ass shows.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Uncle Shags - 04-02-2012
I don't mean to derail this thread any further, but here's an article quoting HBO's president:
"HBO co-president Eric Kessler talking at the VideoshmoozeNYC event yesterday said, “there is no chance his company will make its original programs like True Blood or The Wire available to non-cable subscribers.â€
Sounds like HBO thinks the money from new streaming subscribers wouldn't make up for the loss of full subscribers that would drop down to streaming. Well couldn't they just raise the streaming price? There must be more to it.
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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Breand - 04-02-2012
There is definitely more to it. Television is a big, nasty mess of different rules and regulations. Since the FCC dictates the rules, it's a cluster fuck.
HBO makes all of their money off of subscriber fees. By having high ratings, they can coerce the cable/satellite companies to charge more per customer for each subscription. And since they don't have ad revenue, they feel that those customers should be watching their shows on the television, where they still use ratings to dictate their sub fees. Nielsen is still a lumbering dinosaur that can't track online viewing very well and their data is not reliable.
You have to consider that so far HBO has not suffered at all the same kind of viewership declines that the rest of the market is seeing. They are still making money hand over fist using the older model, so there is very little reason to change.
Having said all that, check out your local libraries for all of their shows. I watched all of True Blood and The Wire from taking out the DVDs at my local library. It cost me $0. =)
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Zirak - 04-02-2012
I re-read the first book of the series before watching the first season of the show and while I did enjoy the show there were a fair number of changes they made that I thought were just dumb and/or annoying. I'll be interested to see what they do to the second book once season 2 comes out on disc next year.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 04-02-2012
So far all the changes I've seen have to do with making a notion expressed in thought known to the viewer (limitations of TV), including some thoughts that span several chapters, most notably is Cercei's storyline.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 04-02-2012
Meh, the first season was about as faithful to a book as any series I've seen. Probably could have gone without the slurping sound when Loras was blowing Renly (who was flaming in the books too), but other than that it was solid.
I am confused as to why they are fucking with Littlefinger's character in the series now, it is totally not in character for him to have gone up to Cercei and talked shit like that. He doesn't pick fights head on until he knows he has won. Probably why he is one of the few people something fucking horrible hasn't happened to yet.
Also, I applaud any decision by HBO which limits the amount of people who have to be subjected to fucking True Blood.
The new Sorkin show on HBO is going to be good:
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Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Zirak - 04-03-2012
OrsunVZ Wrote:So far all the changes I've seen have to do with making a notion expressed in thought known to the viewer (limitations of TV), including some thoughts that span several chapters, most notably is Cercei's storyline.They added a lot more sex and nudity than were in the books. I believe Tyrion had gone without female companionship for years prior to Shae as opposed to having just had a romp with a room full of whores a few weeks before.
They took out a great moment of character development for the Hound by having the secret of his background divulged to Sansa by Littlefinger instead of from the Hound himself. Missed opportunity for some depth to this neat character.
The whole scene with Renly and Loras was over the top. The only indication in the first book that Loras might be light in the loafers is in the way he dresses and no indication is given regarding Renly.
They changed the first night for Daenerys and Drogo for no reason I can figure out.
Drogo gets to die from basically a paper cut as opposed to the large wound that almost tore off a chunk of his breast.
They completely left out some important characters such as Roose Bolton and the Blackfish.
I could go on but I'll stop. All of that said, I did still enjoy the show, I just wish they had not changed some of those things. I can't really see how doing it as it was in the book would have been any harder.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 04-03-2012
there were lots of hints that loras and renly liked the cock in the books, and GRRM has stated he intended them to be gay, so it's not like the show pulled it out of their asses (insert joke here)
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - strife - 04-03-2012
I watched about 10 minutes of the 1st episode on youtube and looked decent enough, so I ordered Season 1. You guys better not have been leading me on!
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 04-03-2012
Quote:They added a lot more sex and nudity than were in the books. I believe Tyrion had gone without female companionship for years prior to Shae as opposed to having just had a romp with a room full of whores a few weeks before.There was a rediculous amount of sex in teh books... and I don't recall tyrion being chaste for any length of time prior to shae at all, in fact I am pretty sure I recall the scene where Jamie had to go and find tyrion, just not where he sends in more...
Quote:They took out a great moment of character development for the Hound by having the secret of his background divulged to Sansa by Littlefinger instead of from the Hound himself. Missed opportunity for some depth to this neat character.This happens later. Shhhh. Also, much of the hound's nature is reveal through internal dialog.
Quote:The whole scene with Renly and Loras was over the top. The only indication in the first book that Loras might be light in the loafers is in the way he dresses and no indication is given regarding Renly.Totally agree. I actually missed the entire fact they they were into eachother in the books entirely. Having looked back, ok I see the hint, but this was so overt it was a bit rediculous.
Quote:They changed the first night for Daenerys and Drogo for no reason I can figure out.How was it changed? I don't remember this part in the books.
Quote:They completely left out some important characters such as Roose Bolton and the Blackfish.both of these characters only become significant in book 2.
Man, all those quotes make my eyes bleed... sorry bout that.
Quote:I can't really see how doing it as it was in the book would have been any harder.agreed except I would imagine at least in Roose's and the Brydon's cases that this would have meant an additional episode or so.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Zirak - 04-03-2012
OrsunVZ Wrote:I don't recall where Tyrion was found but I do recall it was not in a whore house.Quote:They added a lot more sex and nudity than were in the books. I believe Tyrion had gone without female companionship for years prior to Shae as opposed to having just had a romp with a room full of whores a few weeks before.There was a rediculous amount of sex in teh books... and I don't recall tyrion being chaste for any length of time prior to shae at all, in fact I am pretty sure I recall the scene where Jamie had to go and find tyrion, just not where he sends in more...
OrsunVZ Wrote:In the book Drogo was very gentle with her on their first night and employed foreplay to arouse her so that she willingly gave herself to him rather than basically being raped. It was this gentleness displayed to her by this accomplished warrior that won her to him and led to her great devotion to him. In the show its like she has Stockholm syndrome or something.Quote:They changed the first night for Daenerys and Drogo for no reason I can figure out.How was it changed? I don't remember this part in the books.
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - OrsunVZ - 04-03-2012
You mean that wasn't tender???
hock: I kid, I kid!
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Jakensama - 04-03-2012
A lot of shit is changed because the future books are going to have to cut a lot of shit out, so they are likely focusing on some characters more than others for that reason. Obviously Hound's portion has been diminished in significance and littlefinger has been elevated, which is fine with me since Carcetti is a good actor and his characters far more interesting than scary mcscared of fire.
At 10 hours a season its going to diverge more than more from the books, the QQing will be strong in nerddom despite the fact that George was a screenwriter and certainly understands how you can't copy everything.
Also, I seem to recall Tyrion in a whore house in winterfell and he was not drawn as chaste prior to Shay (I've actually met the slutty actress who plays her, shes from Hamburg). You wanna harp on big changes, he is supposed to be far more deformed than Dinklage..
Quote:In the book Drogo was very gentle with her on their first night and employed foreplay to arouse her so that she willingly gave herself to him rather than basically being raped. It was this gentleness displayed to her by this accomplished warrior that won her to him and led to her great devotion to him. In the show its like she has Stockholm syndrome or something.
In the book, she is also 14... Why do they keep changing the book!!!!!!
Re: HBO - Game of Thrones - Vanraw - 04-03-2012
Jakensama Wrote:.
I am confused as to why they are fucking with Littlefinger's character in the series now, it is totally not in character for him to have gone up to Cercei and talked shit like that. He doesn't pick fights head on until he knows he has won. Probably why he is one of the few people something fucking horrible hasn't happened to yet.
This is whyI will benefit from not reading the books...... Though at this point I am 100 percent site I would have loved them.
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This does look really good...