06-20-2016, 07:23 AM
I want to like this episode more than I do, BUT...
1) There was nothing I didn't see coming a mile away. No surprises.
2) I'm growing tired of the "stark" family being retarded and sacrificing everyone's lives for their own emotionally driven bad calls. Especially Wun Wun (Strife, I agree, give him a tree trunk or something). Just a stupid loss of life. But both Sansa and Jon are dumb, and I feel the show is betraying the nature of Jon at the very least by allowing his character to make such grand mistakes at this stage of development. But Sansa takes the cake - if she'd disclosed little finger's arrival, they might have even been able to save Rickon by delaying the battle and taking advantage of the "surprise" arrival of the Vale. But the whole "I'm a victim, you never asked me for MY opinion!" Well, you're practically Queen of the North you dumb twat, how bout you just OFFER it.
3) Ramsay needed to suffer more. Not more in the sense of physical pain. Being eaten by his own dogs was the obvious mode of death - it really NEEDED to end like that, but I wanted him to completely unravel first. Break him entirely. Beat him in every sense.
4) Sansa's smirk and Hollywood walk away - I swear the further we get from the books, the more "dramatic" and the less intelligent things seem to get. Firstly, to me, Sansa is not (and has never been) someone who derives pleasure out of violence, even if it is Ramsay. It just didn't seem to fit. I feel the progression of her character thus far would more likely lead to expounding on the whole "your house is finished" theme and just be more of a stoic response. I didn't expect her to turn away. That's not the Stark way. But the smirk... I dunno. Doesn't fit at all.
5) I think Wun Wun's treatment throughout the episode is probably what pissed me off the most. I just don't see him getting corralled the way he was. We could sit here all day and come up with a thousand things Wun Wun could, would, and should have done. And the physics of the arrow through his hand bothered the shit out of me. What's he made of, playdough?
I felt the episode was overall too engineered. Martin's books didn't feel nearly as forced. I heard this was the episode HBO is submitting for awards, and it probably should be, just not for writing. I feel they completely gave up story, logic, strategy, etc. in favor of the "drama" that certain scenes would visually convey. ie. wunwun's arrow shot hand, the illogically high piles of corpses that seemed to gather in a few seconds of fighting, the impossibly-last-second Littlefinger save - "oh we traveled the entire way from the Vale to Winterfell, and we arrived at the absolute last second!!!", even the trio of Jon, Wunwun, and Tormund, running up the hill after Ramsay... where the fuck were the guys standing RIGHT NEXT THEM a moment earlier?? Ah but the scene will look so much better with just the 3 of them running up the hill alone.
Dany's portion of the episode was far better by comparison. FAR better.
1) There was nothing I didn't see coming a mile away. No surprises.
2) I'm growing tired of the "stark" family being retarded and sacrificing everyone's lives for their own emotionally driven bad calls. Especially Wun Wun (Strife, I agree, give him a tree trunk or something). Just a stupid loss of life. But both Sansa and Jon are dumb, and I feel the show is betraying the nature of Jon at the very least by allowing his character to make such grand mistakes at this stage of development. But Sansa takes the cake - if she'd disclosed little finger's arrival, they might have even been able to save Rickon by delaying the battle and taking advantage of the "surprise" arrival of the Vale. But the whole "I'm a victim, you never asked me for MY opinion!" Well, you're practically Queen of the North you dumb twat, how bout you just OFFER it.
3) Ramsay needed to suffer more. Not more in the sense of physical pain. Being eaten by his own dogs was the obvious mode of death - it really NEEDED to end like that, but I wanted him to completely unravel first. Break him entirely. Beat him in every sense.
4) Sansa's smirk and Hollywood walk away - I swear the further we get from the books, the more "dramatic" and the less intelligent things seem to get. Firstly, to me, Sansa is not (and has never been) someone who derives pleasure out of violence, even if it is Ramsay. It just didn't seem to fit. I feel the progression of her character thus far would more likely lead to expounding on the whole "your house is finished" theme and just be more of a stoic response. I didn't expect her to turn away. That's not the Stark way. But the smirk... I dunno. Doesn't fit at all.
5) I think Wun Wun's treatment throughout the episode is probably what pissed me off the most. I just don't see him getting corralled the way he was. We could sit here all day and come up with a thousand things Wun Wun could, would, and should have done. And the physics of the arrow through his hand bothered the shit out of me. What's he made of, playdough?
I felt the episode was overall too engineered. Martin's books didn't feel nearly as forced. I heard this was the episode HBO is submitting for awards, and it probably should be, just not for writing. I feel they completely gave up story, logic, strategy, etc. in favor of the "drama" that certain scenes would visually convey. ie. wunwun's arrow shot hand, the illogically high piles of corpses that seemed to gather in a few seconds of fighting, the impossibly-last-second Littlefinger save - "oh we traveled the entire way from the Vale to Winterfell, and we arrived at the absolute last second!!!", even the trio of Jon, Wunwun, and Tormund, running up the hill after Ramsay... where the fuck were the guys standing RIGHT NEXT THEM a moment earlier?? Ah but the scene will look so much better with just the 3 of them running up the hill alone.
Dany's portion of the episode was far better by comparison. FAR better.
Gameless (for now)