03-30-2005, 11:51 AM
This is a difficult post to respond to, and i'm not really good with the written word, but i'll give it a shot.
"I think the main reason I left was because it just didnt feel like i was part of the guild at all. For a long time I noted that others were doing different things and I was never invited to go do these things with guild groups. I saw plenty of other people grouping just fine, and I began to feel like nobody really cared if I was in the guild or not." - Raon
"So anyway, if you have read this far, i just wanted to say thank you for confirming what i have thought for the past month. I had never really intended to leave and was just frustrated one night, but now i see that nobody really gives a shit." - Raon
On the contrary, everyone cared that you were a part of the guild. I guess it's hard for me to fathom how you could have thought otherwise. I've never heard one cross word about you, nor have I heard anything even remotely derogatory about your playstyle and character. About the only thing i've ever heard anyone say is "he's a little intense", which I assumed meant you like to move at a fast pace through instances. That's it. Everything else was positive.
It's easy to see why you thought no one cared that you left the guild, because you couldn't see /guildchat anymore when you removed your characters. People were asking why you did it, and i'm sure people tried to send you /tells right after you did so. I know I did, but you logged off immediately afterwards so I couldn't. I'm no mind reader, but my first thought was "man, he must be really pissed off about something". But I was determined to talk to you, so I did a /who Raon and /who Roag the next day when I logged on. Still no one popped up. So I started doing some things and got tied up, but as luck would have it, you offered to rez me when you came across my body in WPL. That's when we had our brief chat. And that's when you made it clear just why you left. I still remember what you said, plain as day, when I asked you why you guildremoved yourself:
"If you can't find a group, why have a guild at all?"
Okay, i'm no pussy, but that hurt a bit. Yes, guilds are used for finding groups. But I always thought that a guild was more than that. I thought that the reason people have guilds is for comraderie and to be associated with like-minded players. I thought the reason people have guilds is to laugh, to reminisce about days gone by, and to share things. I thought the reason people have guilds is because we enjoy each others company. After all, when you boil it down, isn't a guild nothing more than a chatroom populated by people you've come to know over the years from playing games like these? And isn't it a chance to meet new people, too--people you'll never get to meet in real life more than likely, but are still real nonetheless? Sure it is. Well, according to me, anyway. I guess that's why it stung when you said that.
So I ended our conversation with "well, take care and we miss you", which is true, I guess, but to be honest I really didn't want to keep the conversation going. I felt, I dunno, insulted in a way. I always believed that we were online buds. Yeah, maybe we didn't group all the time but we surely have before. And I seem to recall us having a few laughs over my redneck accent on Teamspeak and poking fun at Jawc before doing Maraudon. I guess it's hard to explain this to you if all you really believe a guild to be is nothing more than a collection of potential groups. It may even seem a bit silly to you, I reckon. Oh well. I still consider you an online friend. If you don't think of me as one, that's cool. I understand completely.
There's really nothing more I can add here, but suffice to say that you are wrong if you believe your leaving the guild didn't affect any of us. We enjoyed having you around. Maybe we could have said it more, but that's all water under the bridge at this point, and besides, we shouldn't have to say such things. You should already know it to be true the minute you log on and say "hello" in guildchat.
Anyhow, best of luck to ya, Raon.
"I think the main reason I left was because it just didnt feel like i was part of the guild at all. For a long time I noted that others were doing different things and I was never invited to go do these things with guild groups. I saw plenty of other people grouping just fine, and I began to feel like nobody really cared if I was in the guild or not." - Raon
"So anyway, if you have read this far, i just wanted to say thank you for confirming what i have thought for the past month. I had never really intended to leave and was just frustrated one night, but now i see that nobody really gives a shit." - Raon
On the contrary, everyone cared that you were a part of the guild. I guess it's hard for me to fathom how you could have thought otherwise. I've never heard one cross word about you, nor have I heard anything even remotely derogatory about your playstyle and character. About the only thing i've ever heard anyone say is "he's a little intense", which I assumed meant you like to move at a fast pace through instances. That's it. Everything else was positive.
It's easy to see why you thought no one cared that you left the guild, because you couldn't see /guildchat anymore when you removed your characters. People were asking why you did it, and i'm sure people tried to send you /tells right after you did so. I know I did, but you logged off immediately afterwards so I couldn't. I'm no mind reader, but my first thought was "man, he must be really pissed off about something". But I was determined to talk to you, so I did a /who Raon and /who Roag the next day when I logged on. Still no one popped up. So I started doing some things and got tied up, but as luck would have it, you offered to rez me when you came across my body in WPL. That's when we had our brief chat. And that's when you made it clear just why you left. I still remember what you said, plain as day, when I asked you why you guildremoved yourself:
"If you can't find a group, why have a guild at all?"
Okay, i'm no pussy, but that hurt a bit. Yes, guilds are used for finding groups. But I always thought that a guild was more than that. I thought that the reason people have guilds is for comraderie and to be associated with like-minded players. I thought the reason people have guilds is to laugh, to reminisce about days gone by, and to share things. I thought the reason people have guilds is because we enjoy each others company. After all, when you boil it down, isn't a guild nothing more than a chatroom populated by people you've come to know over the years from playing games like these? And isn't it a chance to meet new people, too--people you'll never get to meet in real life more than likely, but are still real nonetheless? Sure it is. Well, according to me, anyway. I guess that's why it stung when you said that.
So I ended our conversation with "well, take care and we miss you", which is true, I guess, but to be honest I really didn't want to keep the conversation going. I felt, I dunno, insulted in a way. I always believed that we were online buds. Yeah, maybe we didn't group all the time but we surely have before. And I seem to recall us having a few laughs over my redneck accent on Teamspeak and poking fun at Jawc before doing Maraudon. I guess it's hard to explain this to you if all you really believe a guild to be is nothing more than a collection of potential groups. It may even seem a bit silly to you, I reckon. Oh well. I still consider you an online friend. If you don't think of me as one, that's cool. I understand completely.
There's really nothing more I can add here, but suffice to say that you are wrong if you believe your leaving the guild didn't affect any of us. We enjoyed having you around. Maybe we could have said it more, but that's all water under the bridge at this point, and besides, we shouldn't have to say such things. You should already know it to be true the minute you log on and say "hello" in guildchat.
Anyhow, best of luck to ya, Raon.
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