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		<title><![CDATA[The Purge - Guns, Blades and Survival]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[Anyone Got anything new?]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=17043</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 19:02:17 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=810">strife</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[My most recent is a Walther PDP Pro 9MM compact.  It's pretty sweet.  Has suppressor/co-witness height sights, threaded barrel and is cut for a reflex sight. I have the Holosun SCS PDP on it which is designed specifically for this gun.  Thing shoots like a dream. My wife enjoys shooting it as well.  Really great trigger and really comfortable to shoot.  <br />
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It's not as comfortable to carry as my S&amp;W Shield, but carry's okay. <br />
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/mq9ptG9.jpg" loading="lazy"  width="400" height="400" alt="[Image: mq9ptG9.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My most recent is a Walther PDP Pro 9MM compact.  It's pretty sweet.  Has suppressor/co-witness height sights, threaded barrel and is cut for a reflex sight. I have the Holosun SCS PDP on it which is designed specifically for this gun.  Thing shoots like a dream. My wife enjoys shooting it as well.  Really great trigger and really comfortable to shoot.  <br />
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It's not as comfortable to carry as my S&amp;W Shield, but carry's okay. <br />
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/mq9ptG9.jpg" loading="lazy"  width="400" height="400" alt="[Image: mq9ptG9.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[How Guns Work Animations]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=16670</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 22:01:50 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=810">strife</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Been over 4 years since there was a post here so figured it was time for something... I thought these were pretty well done. <br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Been over 4 years since there was a post here so figured it was time for something... I thought these were pretty well done. <br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Semi-auto shotties]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=14548</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:06:12 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=4">Diggles</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anyone have one they would recommend for home defense?  I'm interested in a 18-18.5" home defense w/pistol grip and some sort of way to mount flashlight.<br />
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I'm leaning toward either something from Remmington or Mossberg.  I know the pump models pretty well but not really seen much press/videos about semi-auto versions.  I only ever see Benelli when semi-autos are mentioned.<br />
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A co-worker (huge time shooter &amp; ex-Army) said that for home defense that a 20 gauge is going to be a lethal as a 12.  So it would have less recoil plus able to hold more rounds, right?  I hadnt considered that.  Plus I guess if you have a semi auto that can fire pretty fast with lower recoil you can just pepper someone pretty good so first shot doesnt have to be as lethal.  <br />
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How does 20 gauge ammo cost compare to 12?  I was sorta leaning to a 12 because the available of everything would be beter/more popular.<br />
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Any reason to get a 18.5 barrel if I dont think the ATF is going to be fucking with me measuring my barrel to be legal?<br />
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I know you can shoot pumps fairly fast with practice, but it seems like if the semi-autos are super reliable these days why bother with pump?  Plus it would be easier to shoot with weak hand or if you were incapacitated in any fashion.  Someone pointed out that if you dont keep a shell chambered that the pull back would simulate racking sound as well.  Either way anyone who is in my home is lucky if they get a warning (by way of racking sound)<br />
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I have my family heirloom Remmington Wingmaster 870 pump 27" that I am probably going to use to trade for something in semi-auto.  I know the Wingmasters were the 'Cadillac' of the 870 models and this gun is in tip-top shape.  Any estimates on what I could fetch for it?  Its probably shot less than 1k rounds in its life and made in 60's or 70's.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone have one they would recommend for home defense?  I'm interested in a 18-18.5" home defense w/pistol grip and some sort of way to mount flashlight.<br />
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I'm leaning toward either something from Remmington or Mossberg.  I know the pump models pretty well but not really seen much press/videos about semi-auto versions.  I only ever see Benelli when semi-autos are mentioned.<br />
<br />
A co-worker (huge time shooter &amp; ex-Army) said that for home defense that a 20 gauge is going to be a lethal as a 12.  So it would have less recoil plus able to hold more rounds, right?  I hadnt considered that.  Plus I guess if you have a semi auto that can fire pretty fast with lower recoil you can just pepper someone pretty good so first shot doesnt have to be as lethal.  <br />
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How does 20 gauge ammo cost compare to 12?  I was sorta leaning to a 12 because the available of everything would be beter/more popular.<br />
<br />
Any reason to get a 18.5 barrel if I dont think the ATF is going to be fucking with me measuring my barrel to be legal?<br />
<br />
I know you can shoot pumps fairly fast with practice, but it seems like if the semi-autos are super reliable these days why bother with pump?  Plus it would be easier to shoot with weak hand or if you were incapacitated in any fashion.  Someone pointed out that if you dont keep a shell chambered that the pull back would simulate racking sound as well.  Either way anyone who is in my home is lucky if they get a warning (by way of racking sound)<br />
<br />
I have my family heirloom Remmington Wingmaster 870 pump 27" that I am probably going to use to trade for something in semi-auto.  I know the Wingmasters were the 'Cadillac' of the 870 models and this gun is in tip-top shape.  Any estimates on what I could fetch for it?  Its probably shot less than 1k rounds in its life and made in 60's or 70's.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ammo?]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=14543</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:48:51 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=4">Diggles</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Do any of you regular shooters have advice or sources of getting ammo a little cheaper?  I do not have a house or area to store that much (more than a few boxes) and handloading is out of the question at this time.  I went shooting for the first time in a few years to find a single stack 9mm I can do for conceal carry and was shocked by 50 ct of 9mm costing &#36;20 bucks! 40cents a shot?  I thought 9mm would be closer to 15-20 cents a shot.<br />
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I havent bought a gun yet, was hopping to hit up another range and try out the other guns in my top5 list.  First range only had 2 of 5 that I was interested in.<br />
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Do you know any 'value' brands of 9mm that shoot ok for the range and improving accuracy and muscle memory?  Where do you get it?  I assume 115 grain would be ideal?<br />
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edit: checked out that cheaperthandirt website and they have some good prices, both on ammo and guns.  Ammo is way cheaper than even Walmart]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Do any of you regular shooters have advice or sources of getting ammo a little cheaper?  I do not have a house or area to store that much (more than a few boxes) and handloading is out of the question at this time.  I went shooting for the first time in a few years to find a single stack 9mm I can do for conceal carry and was shocked by 50 ct of 9mm costing &#36;20 bucks! 40cents a shot?  I thought 9mm would be closer to 15-20 cents a shot.<br />
<br />
I havent bought a gun yet, was hopping to hit up another range and try out the other guns in my top5 list.  First range only had 2 of 5 that I was interested in.<br />
<br />
Do you know any 'value' brands of 9mm that shoot ok for the range and improving accuracy and muscle memory?  Where do you get it?  I assume 115 grain would be ideal?<br />
<br />
<br />
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edit: checked out that cheaperthandirt website and they have some good prices, both on ammo and guns.  Ammo is way cheaper than even Walmart]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[How to secure gun but stay ready for defense]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13821</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 19:32:34 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=4">Diggles</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anyone have any suggestions on how go about doing this?  I dont much about safety in this aspect.  The only thing I've really seen is a trigger guard lock, which requires a key...which you'd be fumbling for around in the dark, or worse, not able to remember or have to run TOWARD the door to get...not ideal.<br />
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Bottomline: I have a loaded revolver for home/self-defense and dont want GF or maintenance person in my house accidentally setting it off, but I want it to be ready if its needed within 5 seconds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone have any suggestions on how go about doing this?  I dont much about safety in this aspect.  The only thing I've really seen is a trigger guard lock, which requires a key...which you'd be fumbling for around in the dark, or worse, not able to remember or have to run TOWARD the door to get...not ideal.<br />
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Bottomline: I have a loaded revolver for home/self-defense and dont want GF or maintenance person in my house accidentally setting it off, but I want it to be ready if its needed within 5 seconds.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Real Historical Fighting]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13789</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:38:34 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=111">Vllad</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Since we saw some links in the general forum about older fighting techniques I thought I would post some other links that are worth watching. Especially given how many forms of entertainment don't really show real combat. <br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc</a><br />
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The one above shows the practical use of shields and how that impacted sword evolution. <br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY</a><br />
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Above is a video on Swiss pole arm fighting set to some Rome Total War music. This is why the Swiss made good mercs. <br />
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShlU4gJcms" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShlU4gJcms</a><br />
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The above is actually people who know what they are doing and while not the best technitians it does pretty much show what fights end up looking like. It certainly isn't hollywood. Most sparing video's with professionals always look pretty but when the fights commence this is more what it looks like. This video is real fighting just with tempered weops. I have seen these real fights and obviously their are some people way better than others from a technique perspective the only real difference is how quickly a death blow would come. <br />
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg</a><br />
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Another really good video on heavy armor fighting with swords. This entire series is historically based. Like most non military fighting of the period most combat resembles wrestling when it comes to plate armor fights. How it was implemented in mass combat is something entirely different. <br />
<br />
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LiQFnkuJY" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LiQFnkuJY</a><br />
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If you want a good idea how Roman's fought with discipline the above video shows a good representation. Just imagine the above video only with a Roman legion advancing while using a Gladius which was designed to stab from behind very similar shields that these guys are using.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Since we saw some links in the general forum about older fighting techniques I thought I would post some other links that are worth watching. Especially given how many forms of entertainment don't really show real combat. <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkhpqAGdZPc</a><br />
<br />
The one above shows the practical use of shields and how that impacted sword evolution. <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY</a><br />
<br />
Above is a video on Swiss pole arm fighting set to some Rome Total War music. This is why the Swiss made good mercs. <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShlU4gJcms" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShlU4gJcms</a><br />
<br />
The above is actually people who know what they are doing and while not the best technitians it does pretty much show what fights end up looking like. It certainly isn't hollywood. Most sparing video's with professionals always look pretty but when the fights commence this is more what it looks like. This video is real fighting just with tempered weops. I have seen these real fights and obviously their are some people way better than others from a technique perspective the only real difference is how quickly a death blow would come. <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg</a><br />
<br />
Another really good video on heavy armor fighting with swords. This entire series is historically based. Like most non military fighting of the period most combat resembles wrestling when it comes to plate armor fights. How it was implemented in mass combat is something entirely different. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LiQFnkuJY" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LiQFnkuJY</a><br />
<br />
If you want a good idea how Roman's fought with discipline the above video shows a good representation. Just imagine the above video only with a Roman legion advancing while using a Gladius which was designed to stab from behind very similar shields that these guys are using.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[use your Kindle]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13759</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:13:34 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=605">bonestomper</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/17/build-a-bug-out-kindle-a-digital-survival-library-at-your-fingertips/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/17...ingertips/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/17/build-a-bug-out-kindle-a-digital-survival-library-at-your-fingertips/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/17...ingertips/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[and of course another option]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13710</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:42:39 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=605">bonestomper</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[if you want a gun that can shoot anything, here seems another option.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite> this rifle can fire up to 12 different calibers thanks to the 8 steel adapters supplied. In addition to the two original gauges, adapters allow you to shoot 8 pistol calibers ( .380 , 9 mm , .357Mag/.38SP , .40 S &amp; W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP , .410/.45colt ) and two shotgun calibers (410 ga, 20ga)</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2696" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2696</a><br />
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I was just looking at their triple barrel shotguns<br />
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<a href="http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/135" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/135</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[if you want a gun that can shoot anything, here seems another option.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite> this rifle can fire up to 12 different calibers thanks to the 8 steel adapters supplied. In addition to the two original gauges, adapters allow you to shoot 8 pistol calibers ( .380 , 9 mm , .357Mag/.38SP , .40 S &amp; W, .44 Mag, .45 ACP , .410/.45colt ) and two shotgun calibers (410 ga, 20ga)</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2696" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2696</a><br />
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I was just looking at their triple barrel shotguns<br />
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<a href="http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/135" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/135</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[for the guy that has everything]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13673</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 20:32:25 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=605">bonestomper</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/07/11/how-to-make-a-survival-shotgun/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/07/11...l-shotgun/</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/07/11/how-to-make-a-survival-shotgun/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/07/11...l-shotgun/</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[First Gun]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=13033</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:11:42 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=128">Karne</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I bought my first gun this weekend.  Never have felt I needed to own one, but with taking on a family, the weirdness of both the US environment lately, and the world at large I decided to start looking into and buying some guns.  I intend to buy a shotgun, a .22, and at a later point a larger caliber rifle.  But for my first purchase I bought a Glock 21 Gen 3 SF and have enjoyed the rounds through it so far.  Any suggestions on shotguns for a next purchase?<br />
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Karne]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I bought my first gun this weekend.  Never have felt I needed to own one, but with taking on a family, the weirdness of both the US environment lately, and the world at large I decided to start looking into and buying some guns.  I intend to buy a shotgun, a .22, and at a later point a larger caliber rifle.  But for my first purchase I bought a Glock 21 Gen 3 SF and have enjoyed the rounds through it so far.  Any suggestions on shotguns for a next purchase?<br />
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Karne]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Lock on Rifle]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=12367</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:31:35 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=4">Diggles</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Any of you hunters or gun owners see this video yet?<br />
Pretty damn neat system, but wonder how it deals with moving targets<br />
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<a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/futuristic-rifle-turns-novice-sharpshooter-1B7916613?ocid=msnhp&amp;pos=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadget...snhp&amp;pos=1</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Any of you hunters or gun owners see this video yet?<br />
Pretty damn neat system, but wonder how it deals with moving targets<br />
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<a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/futuristic-rifle-turns-novice-sharpshooter-1B7916613?ocid=msnhp&amp;pos=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadget...snhp&amp;pos=1</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Springfield XDS]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=11967</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:16:12 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=815">TinStar</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anyone have any experience with this?  I'm looking for a small gun that I can carry in my front pocket but that also carries a large round (.45).  This one seems to fit the bill pretty well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone have any experience with this?  I'm looking for a small gun that I can carry in my front pocket but that also carries a large round (.45).  This one seems to fit the bill pretty well.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[First 9mm?]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=11081</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:38:49 -0400</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=652">Xyphos</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I recently started getting back into shooting. Years ago I had a neighbor that used to take me when he could, but when he moved that hobby moved with him.. now that I'm older, I decided I'd like to pick the hobby back up. <br />
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I've been to the range about 3 times in the past 3 months, and each time I've shot something different, from a Beretta, to a 1911, to a Sig, to a Glock, an AK, an AR, and a good ol' Ruger 10/22. I decided for financial reasons to start with a decent 9MM that won't break the bank. So far the only thing I've really come across that looks appealing to the 1.) not being terribly expensive, and 2.) 9mm, is the Beretta M9.<br />
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If any of you had to do the whole "My first Pistol!" over again, what would you guys get? Am I deluding myself into thinking a cheaper gun is the better way to start the hobby? Or should I just bite the bullet (figuratively speaking) and get something like a Sig P226? <br />
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What do you guys think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I recently started getting back into shooting. Years ago I had a neighbor that used to take me when he could, but when he moved that hobby moved with him.. now that I'm older, I decided I'd like to pick the hobby back up. <br />
<br />
I've been to the range about 3 times in the past 3 months, and each time I've shot something different, from a Beretta, to a 1911, to a Sig, to a Glock, an AK, an AR, and a good ol' Ruger 10/22. I decided for financial reasons to start with a decent 9MM that won't break the bank. So far the only thing I've really come across that looks appealing to the 1.) not being terribly expensive, and 2.) 9mm, is the Beretta M9.<br />
<br />
If any of you had to do the whole "My first Pistol!" over again, what would you guys get? Am I deluding myself into thinking a cheaper gun is the better way to start the hobby? Or should I just bite the bullet (figuratively speaking) and get something like a Sig P226? <br />
<br />
What do you guys think?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Boots]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=8358</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:35:13 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=458">Uncle Shags</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've been looking into getting some new boots and figured it's a perfect subject for the survival forum.<br />
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My current boots are a desert military combat boot that have been real nice.  The issues I have with them is they have a soft, running type sole which has worn out and cracked at the instep, and since they are made for the desert, they leak water like a sieve.<br />
<br />
So, for general, all purpose outdoor work/hunting/mucking about I am thinking the features I would like are waterproof, steel toe, 10inch high, leather, lace up, and hard lug soles.  It seems like logging boots have those features, but they usually have a very high heel, which looks like garbage to me personally.  The challenge is to find a nice boot company and then figure out how to get their logging boot without the heel.  There are also a few combat style boots that work as well.<br />
<br />
Here is a Danner that fits the bill:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Danner-QUARRY-Plain-Boots-BROWN/dp/B003XOYX1W/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;s=shoes&amp;qid=1289841052&amp;sr=8-8" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.amazon.com/Danner-QUARRY-Plai...052&amp;sr=8-8</a><br />
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I found this company that looks top notch for quality and enables loads of customization (yes, you can get a lower heel.  God damn that high heeled shit is ugly...), but you really end up paying for it.  Super expensive, but they'd last a lifetime:<br />
<a href="http://www.westcoastshoe.com/wesco/info.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.westcoastshoe.com/wesco/info.asp</a><br />
<br />
These look like they might be nice:<br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=B192V" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....ctid=B192V</a><br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=ST%20POWER" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....ST%20POWER</a><br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=POW%20MIL" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....=POW%20MIL</a><br />
<br />
Here is a military style boot that could work, the soles could be a problem though:<br />
<a href="http://www.workbootsusa.com/be790stwatan.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.workbootsusa.com/be790stwatan.html</a><br />
<br />
There are many other options that are less pricey, but I am not afraid of going &#36;200+ if they will last a long time.<br />
<br />
So step on up.  What about boots?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've been looking into getting some new boots and figured it's a perfect subject for the survival forum.<br />
<br />
My current boots are a desert military combat boot that have been real nice.  The issues I have with them is they have a soft, running type sole which has worn out and cracked at the instep, and since they are made for the desert, they leak water like a sieve.<br />
<br />
So, for general, all purpose outdoor work/hunting/mucking about I am thinking the features I would like are waterproof, steel toe, 10inch high, leather, lace up, and hard lug soles.  It seems like logging boots have those features, but they usually have a very high heel, which looks like garbage to me personally.  The challenge is to find a nice boot company and then figure out how to get their logging boot without the heel.  There are also a few combat style boots that work as well.<br />
<br />
Here is a Danner that fits the bill:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Danner-QUARRY-Plain-Boots-BROWN/dp/B003XOYX1W/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&amp;s=shoes&amp;qid=1289841052&amp;sr=8-8" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.amazon.com/Danner-QUARRY-Plai...052&amp;sr=8-8</a><br />
<br />
I found this company that looks top notch for quality and enables loads of customization (yes, you can get a lower heel.  God damn that high heeled shit is ugly...), but you really end up paying for it.  Super expensive, but they'd last a lifetime:<br />
<a href="http://www.westcoastshoe.com/wesco/info.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.westcoastshoe.com/wesco/info.asp</a><br />
<br />
These look like they might be nice:<br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=B192V" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....ctid=B192V</a><br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=ST%20POWER" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....ST%20POWER</a><br />
<a href="http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=POW%20MIL" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hoffmanboots.com/ProductInfo....=POW%20MIL</a><br />
<br />
Here is a military style boot that could work, the soles could be a problem though:<br />
<a href="http://www.workbootsusa.com/be790stwatan.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.workbootsusa.com/be790stwatan.html</a><br />
<br />
There are many other options that are less pricey, but I am not afraid of going &#36;200+ if they will last a long time.<br />
<br />
So step on up.  What about boots?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Colt .45  ACP  vs.  M9 Beretta]]></title>
			<link>https://thepurge.net/showthread.php?tid=7873</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:21:06 -0500</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://thepurge.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=5">Kiefer</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is an odd place/topic for a new guy to the Purge to post, but after reading the post on M-16 vs. AK 47... (I vote for M-14).. it brought up memories of arguments I had with my buddies about which was actually a better sidearm for the military and the private sector.<br />
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I voted for the Colt .45 ACP due to its superior impact/takedown and the fact that last I was aware Marine Force Recon guys choose it as well.  Where as stock Marines are issued the 9mm.  If the guys who are doing the killing choose to use one over the other than I tend to follow their lead.  <br />
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I am curious to see how the Purge folk feel about this one.<br />
I don't hunt deer with a .22 why would I try and kill a bad guy with one?  Same goes for the 9mm.  I would rather take down what I am shooting at with fewer shots.  In an adrenaline rushed environment wounded guys are still dangerous.. I would rather hit them once and put them down.  The whole firepower vs. ammo capacity argument I guess. <br />
<br />
Figures the gun topic would get me to posting here more often.. heh lil hillbilly that I am.  <br />
<br />
I somehow missed this section to Purge forums. lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is an odd place/topic for a new guy to the Purge to post, but after reading the post on M-16 vs. AK 47... (I vote for M-14).. it brought up memories of arguments I had with my buddies about which was actually a better sidearm for the military and the private sector.<br />
<br />
I voted for the Colt .45 ACP due to its superior impact/takedown and the fact that last I was aware Marine Force Recon guys choose it as well.  Where as stock Marines are issued the 9mm.  If the guys who are doing the killing choose to use one over the other than I tend to follow their lead.  <br />
<br />
I am curious to see how the Purge folk feel about this one.<br />
I don't hunt deer with a .22 why would I try and kill a bad guy with one?  Same goes for the 9mm.  I would rather take down what I am shooting at with fewer shots.  In an adrenaline rushed environment wounded guys are still dangerous.. I would rather hit them once and put them down.  The whole firepower vs. ammo capacity argument I guess. <br />
<br />
Figures the gun topic would get me to posting here more often.. heh lil hillbilly that I am.  <br />
<br />
I somehow missed this section to Purge forums. lol]]></content:encoded>
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